Blog on the Run: Reloaded

Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:11 pm

Life happens

Filed under: Housekeeping — Lex @ 2:11 pm

Not dead, just swamped, as I’ve known for months I would be around this time.

Fear not. I shall return.


  1. Obama orders assassination of US citizen:

    Waiting to hear your outrage, Lex…

    Comment by jaycee — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 2:59 am @ 2:59 am

  2. Been there, done that:

    Marcy flags something that the Washington Post’s Dana Priest wrote down but apparently failed to grasp the significance of: “Somewhere there’s a list of Americans who, the President has determined, can be killed [by their own government] with no due process.” OK, I’ll say it: Impeach him. I’m dead serious. Because if what Priest reports is true, the president has illegally and extraconstitutionally conspired to commit murder.

    Comment by Lex — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 9:14 am @ 9:14 am

  3. Impeach him ? Better yet……

    Does a Spanish jail cell await Obama ?

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 7:05 pm @ 7:05 pm

  4. Great news! Our struggle against radical Islam is over!

    “WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s advisers plan to remove terms such as ‘Islamic radicalism’ from a document outlining national security strategy and will use the new version to emphasize that the U.S. does not view Muslim nations through the lens of terrorism, counterterrorism officials say.

    The change would be a significant shift in the National Security Strategy, a document that previously outlined the Bush Doctrine of preventive war. It currently states, ‘The struggle against militant Islamic radicalism is the great ideological conflict of the early years of the 21st century.’ ”

    Like this doesn’t confuse a confusing situation. Never mind that these groups have proclaimed the one thing they have in common..the essence of their ideology.. kill us.

    No wonder Iran is mocking Obama.

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 7:41 pm @ 7:41 pm

  5. Funny how it’s the radical CHRISTIANS who keep shooting people and blowing things up in this country.

    Beyond that, what matters isn’t what you say, it’s what you do. I’m going to judge Obama the same way I judged Bush: Did he take advantage of the opportunities he had to prevent terrorism, and did he obey the law and the Constitution in attempting to do so?

    Comment by Lex — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 8:24 pm @ 8:24 pm

  6. “Funny how it’s the radical CHRISTIANS who keep shooting people and blowing things up in this country.” Lex

    What’s your point ? You OK ?

    Lincoln was shot by a deranged liberal

    The nutty liberal PRs tried to kill Truman

    A crazy anarchist attempted to kill FDR ( and shot Mayor Cermak instead )

    JFK was assassinated by a Communist

    Squeaky Fromme ( Charles Manson zombie ) and Sara Jane Moore ( P.I.N worker and admirer of the Symbionenese Liberation army ) attempted to kill Gerald Ford

    Lex, you see, it is lefties who are most likely to resort to violence ( Bill Ayers sound familiar ) while honest hardworking folks, Democrats, Independents and Republican hold grassroots protests about government policies with which they disagree and the MSN does their best smear the Tea Party Movement with lies and distortions.

    Hell, during the Bush years dissent was touted by liberals as the highest form of patriotism. Now we have another altogether different steorotype spin..{ protest bad}.. by the doomed Democrat leadership, their ideological friends in the media/blogs and the failed president. Blame it on Fox. What a pathetic meme

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 10:48 pm @ 10:48 pm

  7. Fred, in the past 20 years, who is it going around shooting abortion doctors and Holocaust Museum guards and crashing airplanes into IRS buildings and building poison-gas bombs in Texas and threatening to blow up Michigan and painting bulls-eyes on politicians and cutting congressman’s brother’s gas lines?

    Dissent absolutely is patriotic. I admire well-crafted protest of all political stripes. Terrorism, not so much.

    Comment by Lex — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:05 pm @ 11:05 pm

  8. But all that aside, the point of this thread is that JC presumed I had different standards for Bush and Obama and I caught his sorry ass out being not only wrong but also way late. Lift a glass with me, will ya?

    Comment by Lex — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:06 pm @ 11:06 pm

  9. Lex,

    Just for the record, the guy who crashed the plane into the IRS bldg in Austin was not a radical Christian .Another BIG LIE. And despite the oft repeated stoopidity of Rick Sanchez, Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman ..nobody used the N word or spat on a congresscritter at the DC Tea Party..period !

    He was a left wing Bush hating sicko.

    As for what jaycee thinks are your standards , well he will have to answer for himself. If it’s speculation you want from me then I imagine he thinks your stated anger toward Obama is phony and just for show but I can’t speak for him . Show him some sincerity about your distaste for Obama’s Bush-Lite terrorism policies with a LTE. That will settle things for sure.

    I don’t know if your employeer would approve, though. They apparently don’t put any restraints on you blog wise.

    So do you have any strong feelings about

    this ?


    “Who has ever said such a stupid thing, except perhaps Mr. Obama himself and Mr. Kerry? They are the ones who insist that terrorism can be stopped by building hospitals. ”

    “Oh joy, another new shadowy czar-dom we’ve never heard about before. But look at all the good work they are doing”

    “Because, after all, ‘global warming’ is the kind of thing that the National Security Council should be concerning itself with.”

    ” Oh joy, another ‘summit’! And when will we have the “entrepreneurship summit” for Amish businesses?

    “Or do religions only get such special consideration when their adherents have a tendency to blow things up?
    How preposterous. If Mr. Reagan discussed freedom and liberty, he didn’t need to mention communism or democracy by name.”

    “When did China ever look up to the US? But if they do, you can bet they do so at least in part because they respect our hatred of tyranny.

    Aren’t there any grown-ups in the Obama administration? ”

    “Oh wonderful, now we are working together to issue fatwas.

    Obviously that pesky ‘separation of church and state’ no longer applies when we are dealing with Islam.”

    “Who knew that the CDC is an international organization? Somehow we thought that our tax dollars are going to helping people here in the United States. ”

    “Oh, well. We can certainly see how much better off Nigeria is now, thanks to this effort.

    There’s certainly no violent Muslim extremism going on in Nigeria, now that they have gotten a grip on polio.”

    PROSIT !

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:50 pm @ 11:50 pm

  10. A few thougths on,
    Selective Outrage, Bogus Claims of Violence Used Against Tea Parties

    “No one should be threatened for serving this nation. But if Stupak, Frank and others can’t handle criticism and anger, then they are in the wrong business. And if the media can’t handle this war of words as referees, not players, then they should stay out of it entirely. ( HINT )

    It’s obvious journalists think the tea partiers are a dangerous, racist, homophobic bunch of loons. It’s not just wacky MSNBC or the liberal Washington Post spreading this garbage. It’s nearly every major news outlet. Behind them, pulling the strings like Geppetto, is the core of the liberal movement – “progressive” websites, lefty personalities and Democratic politicians all making the same claim.

    They are all wrong. In some cases, they are openly lying. In most cases, they are taking hypocrisy to epic levels.”


    Comment by Fred Gregory — Sunday, April 11, 2010 11:04 pm @ 11:04 pm

  11. Hey Lex, ya think radical Christians were responsible for this ?

    GOP Official & Boyfriend Savagely Beaten In Politically Motivated Attack – Including Broken Leg, Jaw, Concussion… Media Silent

    “And the mainstream media remains silent. Must have been some of those savage Tea Party people. Guess God needs to send another enema through NO.

    God knows, someone at a Tea Party event supposedly spits at a Democrat and the media falls all over itself with accusations, even after the evidence shows nothing.

    “Two people at the Brennan’s event have now confirmed that the protest had largely broken up by the time it ended, but we also understand from someone who visited Allee Bautsch in the hospital Saturday morning that she and Brown were followed and attacked expressly because they had Palin pins on (she heard one of the attackers say “Let’s get them, they have Palin pins on” – so the attack WAS politically motivated as its victims understood it. It was not a mugging, it was not an argument gone wrong and it was not a bar fight.

    The story of a Republican and her boyfriend being viciously attacked for wearing Palin buttons has yet to make national headlines, unlike say, unfounded rumors of nasty words being said by Tea Party protesters.”

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:30 pm @ 10:30 pm

  12. The illegal and murderous tactics of the Dems are growing to epidemic proportions. Physical attacks on conservatives by Dems/libs occur daily, but are seldom reported by the MSM. Obama has a secretive plan of “genocide lite” for the Republicans, spearheaded by his hoodlums in the street trying to stifle dissent as in the incident described by Fred G. above. Physical intimidation has taken front row as the tactic of choice for the liberals and Dems, who were little more than common thugs, pimps, and whores to begin with. Obama’s motto: “If you can’t beat ’em one way, beat ’em another way!!” The Dems and Obama’s little welfare whelps are commanded by “The Mighty O” to lie, cheat, bribe, steal, or try to kill those who oppose them just to force their communist ideas and programs down the throats of our citizens.
    This is so typical of the brainwashed liberal mindset. They think only they know what’s good for the “little people” and will attack or try to kill anyone who disagrees.

    Comment by jaycee — Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:14 pm @ 11:14 pm

  13. You do realize that Bobby Jindal is saying that they were NOT wearing Palin buttons, right?

    Comment by Lex — Friday, April 16, 2010 8:55 pm @ 8:55 pm

  14. Right, I understand that now.

    I also understand that New Orleans, not unlike many large metropolitan areas, can be a dangerous city. A DEA Agent was beaten to death in the French Quarter there last year. The young man, father of four, was also like his Dad ( who I worked with )a DEA Agent.

    Thomas Byrne, RIP

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:27 am @ 1:27 am

  15. Lex, I also understand that that there are
    reports that conflict with what Jindal’s spokesman is saying.

    An interesting conversation

    “Why all this obsession with denial about the pins, is beyond me. I can only speculate that Governor Jindal is quite passionate about the truth, and/or quite passionate about the fuse of the powder keg of this country not being lit in his state, at least not at a time when front line elements of the warring parties are still co-mingling in the French Quarter.

    First post of today, about my conversation with the New Orleans Police Department:

    I just had a very interesting and somewhat confusing conversation with New Orleans Police Department Public Information Officer Bob Young.

    Mr. Young confirmed to me that the New Orleans police had indeed taken statements from both of the victims, Jindal aide Allee Bautsch and her boyfriend, Joe Brown. He confirmed that in those statements, the victims reported that their assailants had indeed hurled “insults” at them, and the “insults” were, and I quote, “of a political nature”. Describing the entire attack, he went on to say “it was of a political nature”. I then repeated what he told me, and he confirmed it as accurate. I had a witness on the call, Mark Harvey of the Snooper Report, who can confirm this. However, for reasons I’m not clear about, when I pressed him again later, he began to backtrack a bit, perhaps with some cya in regard to his superiors, and he said that he was not authorized to give an official statement about the contents of the “insults”, and for the record, it had not officially been made clear to him what the contents of those “insults” were. He ended up going from “yes, it was of a political nature” to “I’m not sure”. Mark, an established blogger, was as baffled as I.

    My read on this: he caught himself talking out of school in a relaxed opening with me, and then backtracked before he got his ass in trouble. ”

    Let’s examine the facts and see if we can reach a reasonable conclusion. initial report

    1. There had been a GOP fundraiser in the restaurant

    2. There had been anti-GOP protestors outside the event

    3. Prior to the attack the victims heard class warfare obscenities directed at them.

    4. According to accounts most but not all the protestors had left but some were still loitering in the area.

    4. A jaw and nose were broken; a concussion was sustained.

    5. A leg was broken.

    6. There were 3 to 5 of these cowards and robbery clealy wasn’t the motive.

    7. A similar confrontation outside the GOP event occurred earlier that night with some SRLC protestors.

    La. GOP Chair:”Protestors came after us, but we managed to get away in a cab “

    8. Had it been a Democratic aide would you be convinced by the same set of facts that it was politically motivated ?

    If it walks like a duck, and quacks etc

    What we have here is a hate crime.

    Eric Holder call your Civil Rights Division.

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:32 pm @ 2:32 pm

  16. Was Vicious Attack On Republicans Sponsored by Democratic Party?

    “It is deeply ironic that Democrats are trying to sell the idea that Republicans are somehow violent and unAmerican, when in fact, every actual violent incident is perpetrated by liberals, usually union thugs, against Republicans. ”

    In New Orleans, Media Incuriosity When the News Doesn’t Fit the ‘Narrative’

    “The tragedy of the unprovoked attack on Allee Bautsch and Joe Brown in New Orleans recently is intensified by the media’s near-silence on the matter. In another example of its no-enemies-to-the-left mentality, the MSM has gone to ground. Not a word is issued in print condemning the attacks. No reporters are calling members of Congress, the White House or the head of the DNC for comment. No talking heads on television are pulling their chins and wondering if there’s a “climate of hate” loose in the French Quarter.

    What we have here is effective MSM news blackout on a vicious, and most likely politically motivated attack. Has the fourth estate falling into such a swoon with the progressive talking points, that they too believe like the attackers that Ms. Bautsch was a ‘lil blond b*tch’ and thus deserved the beating she got?”

    Of course, she’s an evil Republican, right ?

    “Does the local press in New Orleans not want to dig into the works of local progressives and their propensity for violence? Does the complete lack of fitting the narrative of ‘right-wing violence’ keep the press far from watchdog mode and squarely in lapdog mode?

    Here we have a beautiful 26-year-old woman who has pins and screws keeping her leg together. We have her boyfriend with a broken jaw and nose. At what point does the media become a willing accomplice, through its silence and utter lack of curiosity, in these crimes?”

    What say you, Lex ?

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Monday, April 19, 2010 1:43 am @ 1:43 am

  17. I say 1) whoever did the crime needs to do serious time, as is true of any such crime, not just crimes with beautiful, white 26-year-old women as victims; 2) I’m awaiting more information before concluding anything about the political motivation of the attackers, given the somewhat contradictory nature of what we’ve seen to date.

    On the more general subject of political violence, I don’t think conservatives would be making such a big deal about this if they didn’t have so many black marks on their side of the ledger.

    Comment by Lex — Monday, April 19, 2010 6:20 am @ 6:20 am

  18. Lex, the left wing MSM always waits in silence when not reporting on incidents like this one but on the other hand repeats as hard news incidents that never happened. I saw Rick Snachez on CBB , ( just one of many examples), solemnly telling his audience things that were then and still today are unproven.

    In two comments above you didn’t wait before labeling Joe Stack as one of those Radical Christians going around the country blowing up things. As I pointed out earlier when the facts quickly emerged it turns out that he was a Bush hating anti-Catholic.

    Left-Wing Terrorist Crashes Plane Into Austin, TX IRS Office

    “Well, it wasn’t a right-wing tea party activist that crashed an airplane into an Austin, Texas office building housing an IRS office. It was a left-wing terrorist nut who has posted a lengthy suicide note online that rails against George W. Bush and the Catholic Church.

    You just KNOW that the media were hoping that this was a conservative they could paint as Timothy McVeigh, Jr. and blame everyone from Sarah Palin to Rush Limbaugh for fostering hate that brought this on. (ABC Radio news is calling the note anti-government / anti-tax, which is incorrect.) Instead, we can look at MSNBC, Janeane Garafolo and Bill Maher as having planted the seeds of hate…”

    I think it is worth noting what the AP opined
    and which I previously cited:

    “It’s obvious journalists think the tea partiers are a dangerous, racist, homophobic bunch of loons. It’s not just wacky MSNBC or the liberal Washington Post spreading this garbage. It’s nearly every major news outlet. Behind them, pulling the strings like Geppetto, is the core of the liberal movement – “progressive” websites , lefty personalities and Democratic politicians all making the same claim.

    They are all wrong. In some cases, they are openly lying. In most cases, they are taking hypocrisy to epic levels.”

    You disagree ?

    It may not be OBVIOUS to you but it is clear that the attack was politicaly motivated. Very little of a ” contradictory nature ” here which you say gives you pause. Yeah.

    The “Hayride” carefully defines terms and systematically draws you a road map to this unmistakeable conclusion in what I think is a fair analysis. I am epeating my cry for Eric Holder and his DOJ to investigate this hate crime.

    ” For those who don’t grasp the difference between political and partisan, it’s pretty simple. In our modern parlance, partisan means Republicans vs. Democrats. Political can include everything else. Like, for example, anarchist revolutionaries.

    How do we know this attack was political? Well, three developments in the story of the beating of Allee Bautsch and Joe Brown last Friday in the French Quarter have served to make it almost patently obvious that Bautsch and Brown were attacked out of a political motive…

    1. Louisiana GOP chairman Roger Villere told Hayride contributor Walter Abbott that he was chased by protestors outside of Brennan’s into a cab. Villere said that he couldn’t leave the restaurant through the front door when it was time to depart the fundraiser because the protestors had blocked that entrance; and when he and his group left through the kitchen to the back door, they were seen and pursued. Villere caught a cab in the nick of time and made a getaway.

    2. The police report of the incident makes clear that when Bautsch and Brown left the restaurant an hour or so later, there were still protestors on hand. Those protestors immediately set to making catcalls to the couple, and as they headed for the car they immediately realized they were being pursued just like Villere had been. The fact that the demonstrators pursued both Villere AND Bautsch and Brown is a chilling one; it also calls into doubt any explanation for the attack other than a political motive. While the NOPD has obviously taken scrupulous pains not to make public statements to the effect that politics was involved, the police have also not ruled it out. Sgt. Nick Gernon of the 8th District, who is heading the investigation (I’ve been reliably informed that despite the widespread disparagement of the NOPD both in the New Orleans area and elsewhere, Gernon is a first-rate detective committed to running a thorough inquiry) has not spoken to the media to date so there is no reason to discount a political motive. And I could have predicted to you from the beginning of this saga that the NOPD was not going to announce a political motive publicly until suspects were identified and arrested; that NOPD Public Information Officer Bob Young let the cat out of the bag and made statements to the effect that politics was involved before hustling back to the status quo was a mere momentary departure from that expectation.

    3. Bautsch’s mother Della Berning’s appearance with Megyn Kelly on Fox News, which Connie Hair of Human Events has transcribed, makes clear, as does the police report, that the catcalls and insults hurled at Bautsch and Brown were “all about money.” The police report quotes Brown as recalling one of them was “You think you’re f**ing special” and that there were comments as to how sharply attired the pair were. Let’s remember that both the protest of the Southern Republican Leadership Conference venue at the Hilton Riverside and the redirect to Brennan’s were organized by the Iron Rail Book Collective, whose nature we’ve documented ad nauseam here – the Iron Rail Gang are self-described anarchist revolutionaries, and as Mick Wright at the Tennessee Conservative blog does a devastating job of demonstrating through photo evidence found on the internet from the protests at both venues, they were quite explicit in manifesting that identity during the events in question. Not only that, the Iron Rail people initially bragged about “lots of confrontations” last Friday and how “New Orleans bared its teeth and snarled, and rich plutocrats shat themselves in fear” before the light of scrutiny was shone on them – at which time rather than issue pointed and explicit denials of any role in what happened to Bautsch and Brown, they took down Facebook pages and YouTube videos which documented their protests both at the Hilton and at Brennan’s.

    I hardly think it’s necessary to spell this out, but a communist anarchist who makes disparaging remarks based on socioeconomic circumstances about someone he suspects to be a conservative Republican before descending upon said Republican and beating him or her savagely is doing so from a political motive. Economics + communism = politics. It’s not brain surgery. Particularly given that the anarchists’ propaganda both before and after the event was shot through with hateful references to Gov. Bobby Jindal’s “rich friends” and so on.

    Given that we now know that people who were at the protest at Brennan’s pursued attendees at the fundraiser on two occasions and successfully attacked attendees once, one has to be incredibly suspicious that Daniel Mauch and Joanna Dubinsky would have “gone dark” the way they did. Perhaps it’s not an admission of guilt, but any cop will tell you that it’s classic guilty behavior. They might as well have fled in a white Bronco.

    So obviously this attack was political. But that doesn’t mean it was the work of Democrats. There are other people in the world outside Republicans and Democrats. There are the white supremacists, skinheads and neo-Nazi types, for example. And while it’s a favorite tactic of Democrat political types to paint conservatives as ideological kin to those folks, there are scant few on the mainstream Right with any affinity or common cause at all to be had with that fringe element.

    I would like very much to think that anarcho-communists such as those you’ll find at the Iron Rail Book Collective are analogous to the white supremacist crowd, in that conservatives can agree they don’t represent the views of or share any allegiance with the mainstream Left.

    It appears fairly clear that last Friday, the Iron Rail Gang was able to bamboozle a few mainstream Democrats, namely some well-meaning but easily duped students and professors at the University of New Orleans, into attending their protest at the Hilton. After all, they roped in a brass band for a second line march on a Friday afternoon, and anyone with a knowledge of New Orleans and its traditions knows that a second line is a good way to draw a crowd in the Big Easy. That the protest was couched in the relatively mainstream policy ends of restoring budget cuts in higher education and rebuilding a public hospital knocked out of commission by Hurricane Katrina when Jindal has chosen a different path was a nice way for the anarchists to put a veneer of respectability on their event. If you’ll look at the PDF files of the flyers the Iron Rail people created for the event and hosted at their web site (see the single-sided one here and the double-sided one here), they look relatively inoffensive. The two-page flyer says that Jindal “and his Republican fat cats are destroying Louisiana healthcare: closing hospitals, firing workers,” which is red meat, but not particularly ominous.

    But there was also an eight-page brochure the group put together that did not appear on the Facebook event page for the protest (since removed – there were 209 people who had RSVP’ed for the event and from that roster we found Mauch and Dubinsky), and that brochure was much more ominous. It listed several “Points of Unity,” among them being:

    – The SRLC is not welcome in NOLA without a fuss
    – Recognize healthcare as a basic human right
    – Oppose police oppression, the prison-industrial complex, and the dominant culture of militarism
    – Recognize the need for active resistance to confront all forms of oppression, respecting a diversity of tactics

    The brochure also contained a map of the five hotels at which SRLC delegates were primarily staying, which is extremely disturbing, on the same page as this statement:

    The SRLC is being held the same weekend as the French Quarter Festival. Centered at the Hilton Riverside Hotel at the confluence of Poydras St. and Convention Center Blvd, the SRLC will bring a multitude of unwelcomed outsiders during a traditionally New Orleanian celebration.

    On page 6 of the brochure was the following:

    Saturday, April 10 – all-day – Street Theatre & Direct Action
    We welcome everyone, organizations and individuals alike, to take some time to send their own personal message to the SRLC and its attendees. Saturday is a day of direct action, a time for people to take to the streets, autonomously, and demonstrate their opposition to the policies and politics of the Republican party. While the focus of our Second Line will be about the destruction of health care, inequity and oppression in our city affect all aspects of our daily lives: education, employment, police, the prison-industrial complex, etc. To the streets! Show Jindal his harmful politics are not welcome in New Orleans. Our numbers are many, let our presence reflect our dissatisfaction with the status quo. The Republicans do not offer solutions. The people have the power. Let that be shown.

    It must be said that very little happened on Saturday, though before he pulled it down Daniel Mauch posted on his Facebook page that he was open for more “mischief” and for those interested to call him. Page 6 of the brochure also said:

    SRLC attendees will be spending most of their time in the CBD and the French Quarter. Show them that ignoring the health and well-being of the people for corporate profit will not go unnoticed.

    Mauch, who talked to Tennessee Conservative’s Mick Wright for an hour outside of the Hilton, was in possession of a flyer announcing the “afterparty” protest at Brennan’s, which he gave to Wright while scrawling both the address of the Iron Rail Book Collective and the name of the YouTube account which once hosted the protestors’ video files. On those videos Dubinsky could be seen inviting the protestors at the Hilton to join her at Brennan’s. As said above, both have taken actions in the last 48-72 hours which can be construed as covering their online tracks.

    It is in light of the above that one can conclude, perhaps to the exclusion of anything else, that the attacks on Bautsch and Brown which are documented in the police report and in Bautsch’s mother’s account originated from Brennan’s protestors. The protests at Brennan’s were much more hostile and intense than at the Hilton, where a larger group which included more mainstream types constituted the majority of the demonstrators. The brass band wasn’t playing at Brennan’s, either; this was no cute second-line march. The well-meaning folks at the first protest were obviously peeling off by the time the Brennan’s affair was winding down, and as such this thing wasn’t about ordinary Democrats.

    As I said above, the group which needs intense scrutiny here are the anarchist revolutionaries of the Iron Rail Book Collective, who organized a party-like protest at the Hilton with the express purpose of distilling it into something much more sinister at Brennan’s. The attack came from demonstrators at that protest, and as such it was political. It only becomes partisan if, and I very fervently hope there is no reason to believe this would happen, the mainstream Left chooses to stand with, act as APOLOGIST for or condone the actions of anarchist revolutionaries”

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Monday, April 19, 2010 6:07 pm @ 6:07 pm

  19. Fred, I say I want more information and you turn it into a rant about the liberal media. Which I swear I think sometimes you would do even if I didn’t say a word one way or the other.

    The fact is that although both sides have been guilty of political violence, there have been far more documented cases, and far more serious cases, stemming from the right than from the left, to the extent that a political spot on the spectrum can be identified. That’s just stone fact. Name one act of political violence by the left in the last 50 years that took as many lives as Eric Rudolph did, let alone Tim McVeigh. You can’t do it.

    I’m sorry as hell for what happened to those people, and if it turns out that there was in fact some sort of political incitement, then the inciters should go to prison too. But it looks like more than enough people are paying attention that the truth will be reached with or without my help.

    Comment by Lex — Monday, April 19, 2010 9:14 pm @ 9:14 pm

  20. So you are keeping score , huh. Well instant replay reverses you. I called you out TWICE and you haven’t reponded. Lets try again

    Joseph Stack: Disillusioned Leftist, Not “Racist Right-wing Teabagger”

    “Despite the leftist ideology revealed in Joseph Stack’s manifesto, shortly after he crashed his plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX, progressive media lept to align him with the Tea Party movement, describing him as right-wing, racist, anti-tax, patriot, or militia. Sensing the danger the average American citizen in the Tea Party movement represents to Democrats in 2010 and 2012, they seized the opportunity to insinuate Stack’s alliance hoping to halt the movement’s rising populist wave across the nation.

    As expected, leftists at the NY Times, Washington Post, NY Mag, Time, Newsweek, ABC and Daily Kos swiftly established the talking points. ABC News went so far as to resurrect Janet Napolitano’s quickly retracted Depatment of Homeland Security April 2009 report citing,

    ‘Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propoganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.’

    Quoting Mark Potok, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, ABC maligned,

    ‘the result is what [is] referred to as a ‘broad-based, right-wing populist rebellion.’

    But Joseph Stack cannot be branded as a member of the right. Stack was neither a teapartier nor right-winger. And he was more than just a loon who attempted to avoid paying income taxes. Although incoherent and underdeveloped, his rants are decidedly left-wing and his manifesto, or at least parts of it, are very similar to diaries at the Daily Kos. Stack expressed hatred for George W. Bush, the Catholic Church, and capitalism. He attacked ‘fat cat’ owners, railed against the health care industry and bemoaned the lack of consideration for the masses. Joseph Stack was devastated that his dreams of a benevolent government have been shattered.

    In his manifesto he proclaims,

    ‘The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. ‘

    ‘There are two ‘interpretations’ for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us.’

    ‘Now when the wealthy f*ck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution. ‘

    ‘ The joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple’

    ‘The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government.’

    Even the leftists at the Democratic Underground recognize one of their own,

    Overtly embracing Karl Marx, Stack chose to end his manifesto with an attack on free-market capitalism………”

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:47 am @ 2:47 am

  21. So I was wrong on Stack. My point stands, and Napolitano’s assessment, though retracted, remains accurate.

    Comment by Lex — Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:16 am @ 6:16 am

  22. Lex,

    Like you have never ranted. Ranting is good for the spleen. What I said about the MSM in general and specifically in the NOLA GOP beating case is correct. I have seen it at my kitchen table every morning and in my den every evening for over 50 years. It still goes on. The lies about the Washington Tea Party peaceful protest have morphed into urban legends and have gained orthodoxy status with the network news programs while collectively never breaking ranks and ignoring stories unfavorable to Democrats or favorable to the GOP .

    Since you are keeping score, mark this one down in your ledger

    Spring Hill man accused of ‘threatening to assault or murder a U.S. official.’

    This and more from Gateway Pundit ( get out your ledger):

    “Last Wednesday union thugs rammed their way through the Boston Tea Party Rally where Sarah Palin was speaking. They threw punches, insulted protesters, and screamed through a bullhorn. On Thursday, two democratic officials, Steve Belosi and John Durajczyk stood up, screamed and disrupted Lt. Governor Peter Kinder during his tea party speech in St. Charles, Missouri. One of the thugs screamed at an elderly woman until she started crying. At the Sacramento tea party rally Martin Francis Brown rushed the stage and started screaming until he was slammed down on the back. Of course, these stories were ignored by the democratic-media complex. It didn’t fit their narrative.

    So, it comes as no surprise that the state-run media largely ignored this story today… Democratic donor Erik Lawrence Pidrman was arrested late Sunday for threatening to murder Republican Representative Ginny Brown-Waite.

    Erik Pidrman threatened to murder GOP Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite. (

    FBI agents arrested a Spring Hill man late Sunday for threatening to kill Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL).
    The Orlando Sentinel reported:

    FBI agents and officials with the Hernando County Sheriff’s Office say they have arrested a Spring Hill man on a charge of threatening harm against U.S. Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite.

    The Brooksville Republican’s office received a “telephonic threat” on March 25 from an unidentified male, authorities said.

    Late Sunday, FBI agents and Hernando deputies arrested Erik Lawrence Pidrman, 66, at his Spring Hill home in connection with the threat. The charge is “threatening to assault or murder a US official,” according to FBI Special Agent Dave Couvertier.

    Hernando deputies and the FBI started a joint investigation after Brown-Waite’s Brooksville office received a telephonic threat.

    This investigation is ongoing and the United States Attorney’s Office, Middle District of Florida, will handle the prosecution.

    Brown-Waite’s office released a text of the voicemail soon after it was received March 25.

    The caller stated: “Just wanna let you know I have 27 people that are going to make sure that this [expletive deleted] does not live to see her next term. Good-bye.”

    Brown-Waite contacted the Capitol Police and the Hernando County Sheriff after receiving the message.

    Pidrman gave $250 to Hillary’s campaign in 2008.

    By the way… Bill Clinton today warned of “a slippery slope from angry anti-government rhetoric to violence like the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.” Maybe he should send a copy of his speech to his wife’s donor list. It could be a lifesaver.

    Lookit…. The former POTUS is going where he shouldn’t not only to try and demonize the legitimate Tea Party movement but is on a bit of a slippery slope hiimself. Can you say ” War Criminal ”


    “Bill Clinton’s invocation of Timothy McVeigh in connection with the Tea Party movement caused me to recall my review of a book on the Waco massacre that was a motivation for McVeigh. The book under review was Reavis, The Ashes of Waco, and it appeared in the Times Literary Supplement in 1995. Re-reading it for the first time in many years, I was struck by this section:

    ………The plan Reno approved and took to President Clinton for approval contemplated the children choking in the gas unprotected for forty-eight hours if necessary, to produce the requisite “maternal feelings”. By taking aim at the children with potentially lethal gas, their mothers would be compelled, according to the FBI plan repeatedly defended by the Clinton administration afterwards as “rational” planning, to flee with them into the arms of those trying to gas them. [Emphasis added.]

    ……..An independent report on Waco written by the Harvard Professor of Law and Psychiatry, Alan A. Stone, for the then Deputy Attorney General Philip Heymann, says it “is difficult to believe that the US government would deliberately plan to expose twenty-five children, most of them infants and toddlers, to CS gas for forty-eight hours”. Unfortunately, however, that appears to have been exactly the plan.

    ……The effect of CS gas on an unprotected infant exposed for only two to three hours is discussed in the report; in that case report, dating from the early 1970s, the child’s symptoms during the first twenty-four hours were upper respiratory; but, within forty-eight hours his face showed evidence of first degree burns, and he was in severe respiratory distress typical of chemical pneumonia. The infant had cyanosis, required urgent positive pressure pulmonary care, and was hospitalized for twenty– eight days. Other signs of toxicity appeared, including an enlarged liver.

    ……..Professor Stone’s report is measured, careful and damning. It is hard to know whether Heymann’s courage in commissioning it was a reason for his subsequent departure from the Justice Department. In the mean time, questions about the performance of the Justice Department are treated by the Clinton administration not as serious allegations of criminal activity, but as little more than a below-the-belt salvo in the culture wars.

    ……I was shocked to read in Stone’s report that the Justice Department had undertaken, and had defended in the press as such, activities which if conducted in wartime would constitute WAR CRIMES. Because exposing the children to CS gas was the point of the FBI exercise: no children exposed, no pressure…….

    Sorry to persist in getting a correction on Stack but you were not the only one who repeated the misleading information and those jerks get paid to do it. I suspect I have made the same mistake… assuming the bloggger, Tvee guy or the newspaper was feeding the public honest info.

    For the record, IMHO, Napolitano is an incompotent moron and that’s being kind.

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:27 pm @ 7:27 pm

  23. So a guy in the Spring Hill media market, which has got to be at LEAST the fourth or fifth largest in the country, gets arrested “late Sunday” and the news come out … today. That’s about par for the course: It happens late Sunday, TV doesn’t make cop calls at night/weekends anymore, newspaper reporter finds out about it Monday, story gets published Tuesday morning and then goes out over the wires and THEN gets distributed nationwide. That’s how it works and you know it.

    Regardless of Stack’s POV, my math still stands up and yours still falls down. And Bill Clinton, after what he went through, is uniquely qualified to talk about the effect of anti-government rhetoric on the unhinged. He should have either sued Jerry Falwell or nutpunched him over that “Vince Foster was murdered” crap.

    You’ll see a blog post of mine shortly that gets into the Tea Party some more, and when I say “gets into,” I mean “explores,” not “criticizes.”

    Your concern about war crimes is duly noted … and duly mocked. NOW you want to worry about U.S. government war crimes? Really, Fred? A mere 6 1/2 years after what Bush et al. did started coming to light?

    And, yes, Janet Napolitano is an idiot. But she was right on that issue. Even a blind pig …

    Comment by Lex — Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:30 pm @ 8:30 pm

  24. Lex,

    Get out your ledger book. Here is an enries your should have recorded but no doubt somehow overlooked.

    Eco Aronists burn sub-divisions

    Extreme Hummer Hate Ignites Fear in Denver

    And most recently ( and there is lots more )
    Serve and Protect until you criticize us

    You dion’t have a problem what out military, the FBI, Clinton, Gore, Reno and Holder did to those innocent children. As the writer said it would be a war crime if we were at war. Your conscience is your business.

    Sleep tight.

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:44 am @ 12:44 am

  25. And just to be clear about about poor WJBC and who he could have sued. There are a lot of powerless women out there who shiould have sued him. But..lest we digress…

    Trolls who comment without reading

    “With President Clinton wagging his finger at the Tea Party movement and claiming that the movement is inciting violence, it is worthwhile to remember the role the Clinton administration in perpetrating and covering up numerous violent and other crimes at Waco. The subject is treated at length in my book, co-authored with Paul Blackman, No More Wacos: What’s Wrong with Federal Law Enforcement and How to Fix It. This page provides a summary of the book, a free copy of the first chapter, two law review articles (on the warrant, and on police militarization), several shorter articles, and videos of speeches regarding Waco.

    Just to be clear to the trolls who comment without reading: The book describes the Branch Davidian false prophet Vernon Wayne Howell (a/k/a David Koresh) as a predatory sociopath and a criminal. And of course nothing in the book attempts to justify that other sociopath Timothy McVeigh. Nor does the book claim that federal agents deliberately started the fatal fire, although it does point out that before the fire began, at least some of the victims had already been killed by the CS chemical warfare bombardment and tank attack.”

    David Kopel

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:59 am @ 1:59 am

  26. Uh, Fred, I had a huge problem with how the Branch Davidians were handled. The fact that it is not reflected on these pages indicates only that that happened in 1994, a mere eight years before this blog debuted. I think it probably is for a jury to decide whether the level of intentionality involved rises, or sinks, to the level of a war crime, but it clearly was negligent at the very least, and probably criminally negligent.

    Yeah, Bill Clinton probably — probably — did some sleazy things in his private life that haven’t yet been litigated, but they were, by and large, with consenting adults. To the extent they weren’t, absolutely let him take his chances in court. The point is, while he was in office, people were fantasizing about black helicopters and related crap, and McVeigh, at least, was a direct outgrowth of that.

    As for adjusting my ledger, I never claimed that the left is blameless. I said it’s the right that’s killing people. And it is.

    And to the extent I’m having trouble sleeping, my friend, it’s purely because of allergies.

    Comment by Lex — Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:38 am @ 8:38 am

  27. Yeah but how does Clinton sleep ? And the grifter is out there unconscionably aiding and abetting the DNC/MSM who are desperately searching for a unified meme to demonize the Tea Party movement.

    TheFallacy of Conflating Two Very Different Types of “Anti-Government” Movements

    “Some commentators are associating the Oklahoma City bombings of 15 years ago and other far right violence with the rise of “anti-government” sentiment in opposition to the Obama health care bill and other recent expansions of federal spending and regulation. Former President Clinton’s recent New York Times op ed is a good example of this genre.

    The bottom line is that Clinton and others have drawn an unwarranted connection between “anti-government” movements that seek to limit government spending and regulation and a very different set of groups that have no real objection to big government as such. Instead, they seek to use massive state power to enforce racism, anti-Semitism, and neo-Nazi totalitarianism. No one should confuse that with a genuine anti-government ideology motivated by concerns about the fate of ‘American freedom.’ “

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:13 pm @ 9:13 pm

  28. There’s one very important connection between them, Fred: They believe crap that isn’t true and they get angry about it. Beyond that, although the overlap is far from total, there IS overlap. So the connection is hardly “unwarranted.”

    Comment by Lex — Friday, April 23, 2010 1:29 pm @ 1:29 pm

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