Blog on the Run: Reloaded

Friday, August 10, 2012 8:40 pm

You didn’t build that, Thomas (“Common Sense”) Paine edition


Tom Paine was a Marxist libtard:

“Personal property is the effect of society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society, as it is for him to make land originally.

“Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist, the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man’s own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilisation, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came.”

So, all you Randian sociopaths, who’s more American?

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7 Comments »

  1. The first thing I notice in the quote is the terminology chosen. “Society”, not government. I also would note the period form which this quote is taken. If we accept the implied stretch of your post that society is government, then the government Paine was talking about consisted of perhaps 3% of GDP. Is that the depth government you support? I doubt it. Not even Rand call for that.

    But the fact is that civilization and government are independent constructs and in conflating the two you do yourself a disservice. You are smarter than that.

    Try again.

    Comment by bonfire — Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:31 pm @ 1:31 pm | Reply

  2. I think this reflects the full 10 minute speech by Obama taken in context. If you want to slice and dice, you can conclude anything…….

    Comment by Collards — Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:01 pm @ 7:01 pm | Reply

  3. Obama was not talking about society; he was talking about government. That said, to a Marxist the two are one in the same.

    Comment by bonfire — Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:04 pm @ 10:04 pm | Reply

  4. A great American

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Friday, August 17, 2012 10:39 pm @ 10:39 pm | Reply

  5. As one can easily tell from the context, Paine was using the words interchangeably in this passage, “bonfire.” Now take your sock puppetry elsewhere, son.

    Comment by Lex — Friday, August 17, 2012 11:48 pm @ 11:48 pm | Reply

  6. Another Great American, right here in Greensboro:

    Town Square: Taxers get plenty from the ‘rich’
    Monday, August 6, 2012

    By CLYDE HUNT JR.

    Based on several recent letters and columns in the News & Record, a segment of our population apparently is convinced that those owning a house on our North Carolina coast, or multiple automobiles, or a business are all “rich.” And that they either inherited this wealth or acquired it at the expense of others, and that they do not pay “their fair share” of taxes.

    Who really are the so-called “rich” in North Carolina and how did they become so?

    An example:

    I knew a family that lived in Greensboro during World War II. The husband and both of his brothers served in the armed forces. He was a high school graduate and a new father with so little income that his wife and young son lived on her father’s farm near Concord until he returned from the war.

    He became a salesman, and, after years of hard work and sacrifice, he and his wife accumulated enough funds, combined with loans from their parents, so that they were able to open a small supply business in 1958 on Lee Street where Greensboro Urban Ministry now is located.

    After their son graduated from a state university (the first in this family who had an opportunity to accomplish this) and served in the Marine Corps, he joined the family business as a salesman. These three worked six days each week (and often nights and holidays) for years. But like Chick-fil-A, they never opened on Sunday. They drove used cars and seldom vacationed.

    In the 1960s, they invested in beach property in Brunswick County. And in the 1980s, two of the family’s third generation joined and expanded this family business with the same dedication to hard work and self-sufficiency as their parents and grandparents.

    During its first 50 years, this family and its small business have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in state and federal taxes. And in the early 2000s, when the founders passed away, the state and federal governments came calling (estate/death taxes). Raleigh and Washington confiscated enough money from this family that it would have college-educated the five fourth-generation children … because their great-grandparents died. Had its owners not spent tens of thousands on legal estate planning, this small family business would have been forced into a fire-sale/liquidation to pay these taxes.

    We’re not paying our “fair share,” you say?

    As you’ve probably surmised, I am familiar with this example of the “rich” because I am the second-generation son in this third-generation family business.

    Yes, the families that founded and expanded this business have a beach house, nice homes in Greensboro, more than one car, etc., because they all earned and deserve it.

    Forget the president’s contention that we didn’t build our business; we did, despite the local, state and federal governments’ constant “interventions.”

    Are folks like us really the “rich” that some resent? You’ll not witness a Paris Hilton-type episode from these “rich” families.

    When I was growing up in North Carolina, starting your own business was the American Dream that many aspired to. It was an honorable goal — not to be ridiculed or even condemned as it is by some today.

    What has happened?

    It is honorable not to expect assistance from Raleigh or Washington. It is honorable to start a business and operate it successfully based on Judeo-Christian principles.

    Yes, it is our personal responsibility and obligation to assist those who, through no fault of their own, experience hard times. But it is immoral and dishonest (and mostly unconstitutional) for the state to confiscate earned income from producers in order to “redistribute” it to nonproducers.

    When I consider all of the taxes I pay (income, corporate, gasoline, property, sales, estate, etc.) it is nearly 50 percent of my salary.

    Just how much more of “our fair share” do the progressives expect from the producers, particularly when almost 50 percent of our citizens pay zero federal income taxes!

    Clyde Hunt Jr. lives in Greensboro and is a News & Record Town Square community columnist.

    Comment by Fred Gregory — Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:57 am @ 10:57 am | Reply

    • Yeah, I read that. Entire Midwestern states perished to provide the straw he uses here.

      Comment by Lex — Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:08 pm @ 5:08 pm | Reply


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